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 Zazafication or beautification of projects so all of our sad little projects

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 intensity that you know we came from so it's been good. Very wonderful. Awesome,

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 Six weeks, last couple days, give me the highlights go. Highlights, FIPS,

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 Totem, Totem. So much Totem. Marmot's working, that's a highlight even though

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 Balazs. Balazs. Let's go. Six weeks, last couple days, SEC-08. You have to call the

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 it was, I think it's a really good idea,

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 like, especially like,

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 the idea overall is really nice.

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 It's a very nice way to build stuff,

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 but with, even like now with Zaza implementing more stuff

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 and making it more beautiful,

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 it's like, it's becoming really amazing.

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 I think it's-

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 - Hmm, things are coming together, right?

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 - Yeah, I think it's a good way to like,

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 to make onboard people.

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 - Awesome, awesome.

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 Okay, last question.

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 Who should be next in terms of holding the microphone?

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 You have to pick the next person.

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 - Yeah, why not?

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 - Yeah, in the best case outside of the earshot,

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 because I have to come up with new-

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 questions otherwise okay okay so let's see let's see so yeah

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 a HZRD let's go

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 HZRD last couple days week six eighth cohort you've been a repeat guest give

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 me your your highlights or like before I before I asked you that how seasick

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 are you right now okay okay okay all right good so what were what were the

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 highlights for you I don't want you throwing up on the microphone you know

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 like I have to protect my gear that's why I'm asking

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 my brain's not working right now it's I'm not I'm not remembering anything like

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 what did you work on what did you work on give me give me some things that you

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 worked on in the last six weeks mostly kind of ridiculous demos let me see

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 the

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 hips making pong in the web browser then making it go over tips that was

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 interesting all right it's completely useless but it worked oh in the nix

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 packages putting nix packages on there we go there we go what what next putting

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 that on there like on some sort of like folder structure on top of blossom

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 like distribution and whatnot yeah that was really interesting barely worked but

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 very promising

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 yeah I don't remember anything else was there something that surprised you like

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 having having gone through a couple of cohorts already like any any anything

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 that was different anything that was better anything it was worse not really

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 no the one time this this time around just like I had the feeling going into

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 this but it was we're finally gonna get things to work together like yeah piece

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 all the pieces there was a lot of pieces we're missing and now we have

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 enough to actually start connecting yeah and we've actually started doing in

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 like hacky demos start connecting things but like actually connecting them in

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 like a meaningful way yeah yeah we have enough building blocks now that you can

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 actually have fun playing with the LEGO bricks and build something that

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 resembles a you know a thing a castle or whatever well it's starting to look

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 like the it's starting to look like where we want to go yeah and not like

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 because a year ago we were talking about where we want to be or what type of

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 tech we want to have yeah and there was always missing gaps like well we're

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 gonna we're gonna have something like this but we don't know how it's gonna

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 be made yeah and now it's doesn't there doesn't seem to be many missing gaps

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 yeah at least not to get to where we were talking about last year yeah yeah

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 one thing I was new was also Jonathan paired everyone up but there was a week

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 of like basically doing stuff together and like pair programming and like

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 coming up with the thing how was it for you kind of good yeah it was good good

295
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 idea really good idea I worked with what did I do

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 you're running on little sleep we have to explain yeah

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 no I think I worked with Julian on the next packages maybe that week yeah yeah

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 that was that week yeah yeah because a lot of people really seem to seem to

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 like it like they're pairing up and kind of leaning more into collaboration

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 type of stuff no the the different structures for the weeks this time was

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 really good yeah it was really awesome like especially the you know honestly

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 the one I had the most fun with was the

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 least on Monday I don't remember what happened that week but the was same

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 which we could say we should yeah like all the the one minute demos yeah I

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 liked that a lot yeah yeah that was that was to get serious yes yeah it was

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 boy you definitely couldn't do it for every single idea but yeah brought up a

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 whole bunch of different new ideas yeah and also made the discussion after the

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 demos a lot more interesting yeah because you couldn't explain everything

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 yeah awesome awesome yeah I like it I like it someone also brought up the idea

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 like start with six minutes in the first week yeah and then like five minutes

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 four minutes treatments that's I like that I like that progression all right

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 who should be the next person you have to pick has she's just gone preferably

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 out of your shot oh 600 billion oh my lord I hate you for that but also thank

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 you

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 I'm gonna regret this but you were chosen what so Felix last couple days week six

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 how was summer engineering for you I want to hear the highlights well there are

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 a lot of highlight basically was really great a lot of code people and what the

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 ship now is obviously a highlight the demos we are literally shipping right now

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 yeah and you're all in

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 Everything was great. I would say at the good time. Give me your top three in terms of like projects or things yourself or stuff

321
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 That's obvious. It's like Netflix

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 hypergate

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 And there we go. There we go. Sandwich wins

324
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 Great that but everyone

325
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 Awesome. Awesome. Any last words before you select the next person?

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 No, thank you for having me. Oh, of course. Pleasure. Pleasure. You brought a lot of like good energy, you know

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 And I mean I knew that I knew that that would happen. So

328
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 Who should who should be next? Preferably out of your shot, but okay, I'll make an exception

329
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 Out of your shot, but it's fine. Well, we are big fans of exceptions

330
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 So same question six weeks looking back reflecting about it. How was it for you?

331
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 So for me was different from just to normal

332
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 SCC let's say because it was my first SCC and I haven't been in the Bitcoin nostril world since like less than six months

333
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 Yeah, so it's like I'm going through a mind fuck anyways. Yeah, and now I'm on SCC and it's like

334
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 It just rankings from the fire hose. Yeah, like it but it really convinced me that this is the right path

335
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 I love it. It's like I don't know what's gonna happen from my life or now on but I know that this is the right path

336
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 I do an extent have found my people and and that is the

337
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 The craziest discovery for me. So you've been properly radicalized now

338
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 You can say that all right. We'll have robes next year. Oh

339
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 Yeah, I'll start to changing the prayers. Yeah, what we're what we're the top three things for you like it doesn't have to be projects

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 Also kind of you know interactions or things that happen in last six weeks. I mean I got a pouch for e-cash man

341
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 I mean, there's been so many e-cash projects and

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 like

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 Starting the first week with my housemate doing granola was like already like holy shit e-cash is capable of so much more than I thought

344
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 Yeah, it's you know, it has its own properties and trade-offs and everything like that

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 But the things that it enables is crazy like anyone can be a bank. Yeah, that's an interesting idea

346
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 Yeah, so that was and again, there's not a specific demo. I mean there's lots of specific demos that were part of this

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 Napplets for sure

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 But I'm looking to see how that solidifies in the outside world to some extent

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 And then as you see itself

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 That's the third thing. It's like I'm understanding that as you see it was designed a very specific way

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 To achieve a specific outcome and I'm still trying to understand how that affects all the people who took part in it

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 I think that's a pretty

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 And you know as somebody who might be interested in community building and all this kind of stuff

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 It's very interesting from an observations point of view

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 But yeah, I actually look forward really a lot to seeing the last demos that come out this week

356
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 Yeah, I think everyone's gonna double their effort. It's gonna be interesting me too me too me too awesome

357
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 Those are awesome answers. Thanks for all that you'll have to pick the next person. Oh man, okay

358
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 Yo, I picked you all right

359
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 All right, all right, so on this boat trip what were the top three things that you saw?

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 The whales see the whales

361
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 Swimming jumping from the boat

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 How was the cake

363
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 Was good as well. Yeah, those are fantastic top trees. Yeah. Yeah, all right any last words before you pick the next person

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 No

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 This guy

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 Just say Jesus Jesus

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 All right, Jesus you were chosen you are the chosen one you are the chosen one. I can hear you

368
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 All right last couple days

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 Looking back at the you're still a captain. So first of all O captain my captain

370
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 Last last six weeks. How was it for you? You are the like I'll have your Jesus after all I have to give a proper

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 Intro you're the person who spent the most time at sovereign engineering out of all the people in the world

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 It's crazy out of all the people in the world more than me definitely more than Pablo. No more than me more than me

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 I was absent like a couple weeks on song through and now it's you are the number one Jesus number one like top

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 participant like you are sovereign engineering

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 That's that's how it is, you know, I feel further. Yeah, and so how was it for you this one?

376
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 And what were some of the highlights? So I haven't been able to participate the whole thing

377
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 I have been used here for three weeks

378
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 but so far I have been amazing like I meet with friends or friends and I think

379
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 the highlight for me this cohort was taught them because you know

380
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 taught them was something that we this queued it in the third cohort yeah and

381
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 now we are in the eighth cohort and now it's it came back from the then

382
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 totem was revived to be honest never did we never die to be honest it was like

383
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 an exploration yeah and now that we have fifths we have not let's on this kind of

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 architecture where you can basically have a camera runtime some some was

385
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 perfect like at the right time to build it and nice real yeah awesome awesome

386
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 summer life awesome awesome next person push a bit you

387
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 me oh my god all right how look at you are there the creator of this and it's

388
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 amazing to have you here so hold those fees for you to yeah I'm glad that I

389
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 was able to make it so we are on the happy path the happy path for me for

390
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 this cohort was being able to participate in the first week and maybe being able

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 to participate in the last week and you are here so the the happy path worked

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 out you know like it there is the saying of like a smooth scene never made a

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 skilled sailor and so so you know like you shouldn't wish for a smooth team so

394
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 and my wish was granted I had some rough seas it's not a reason in that

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 world and I'm very glad that sovereign engineering is like driving even when

396
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 I'm not here most of the time again you you tell me that I have been

397
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 participating in all of them and yeah every time there is new people new ideas

398
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 every time is so intense yeah it's fucking great yeah no it's working and

399
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 as long as it keeps working we're gonna keep doing it and I'm glad that new

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 people are coming in like fantastic people also like Jonathan and so on and

401
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 I'm glad that we have lots of repeat participants like that's that's a really

402
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 good mix like it's a good signal from both sides I'm glad that it's still

403
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 evolving you know like and lots of people have like new ideas and I think now is

404
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 the right time to you know like get it global like there is no global but that

405
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 soon will be you know like sovereign engineering global will be a thing

406
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 look at global and exactly local global and will will branch out and try some

407
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 some run some different experiments like that's the plan and and kind of yeah

408
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 see where we can take it next and we will will obviously remain in Medera and do

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 the six-week thing or some very end of it but we are currently thinking about

410
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 like doing you know like five days on a mountain hub kind of idea or whatever

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 like your sandwich is gonna do three months in the jungle so three months in

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 Vietnam that's gonna be interesting as well I can see you sign up

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 we'll see you know like it might it might self-terminate

414
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 people it was feasible we'll see we'll see I go so it's it's it's the exploration

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 is going on and that's what I like as well and again like it it it keeps

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 working and as long as it keeps working we're just gonna continue and like new

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 awesome stuff comes out of it and that's that's that's to me like the main

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 reason of doing it like that's a cool shit so thank you so much and now I'll

419
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 pick the next one me sandwich very easy I don't want to walk I don't want to walk

420
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 too far all right so Naplettes was mentioned like a gazillion times yeah

421
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 totem was mentioned correct so you are not allowed to name those two outside of

422
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 outside of Naplettes and totem what were some of the highlights for you

423
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 seeing everyone again something that has you excited on the on the project side

424
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 yeah just seeing everyone adopt all this stuff yeah really magical yeah really

425
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 great to see yeah yeah yeah no I'm glad that the Naplettes stuff kicked off

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 because when we when we talked in the first week it was still kind of you know

427
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 like pre-naplet explosion in some sense yeah and and now you know like everyone

428
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 and a dog has built like 15 Naplettes that's yep and you know life in a couple

429
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,960
 clients and so on that's really cool yeah and and there's people making them

430
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 outside of the cohort yeah just random people what a different six weeks makes

431
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,920
 yeah you know like different world now yes yeah what's what's next for you talk

432
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 to me about Vietnam a little bit well it was just ad hoc it was just three of

433
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 us wanting to come together and go to Vietnam yeah and live together and build

434
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 yeah well we'll have to we'll have to find the right you know name and and yeah yeah

435
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 that's all but it's I think it's a good idea it needs a pilot for sure yeah I

436
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,440
 can tell that's that's the pilot program yeah yeah it's like SECO one all over again

437
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 (laughter)

438
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000
 Drawing the guinea pigs through the meat grinder.

439
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,000
 Kind of idea.

440
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000
 Awesome.

441
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,000
 What's the time frame on that?

442
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,000
 Like the...

443
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 Winter.

444
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,000
 Yeah.

445
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,000
 Ok.

446
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000
 So November to February's kind of.

447
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,000
 Awesome.

448
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
 You'll have to pick the next person.

449
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,000
 Ballash.

450
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,000
 No, we already had him.

451
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000
 The fool is shrinking.

452
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,000
 There is still balloon ball...

453
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,000
 There's balloon ball...

454
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,000
 Whisker is good.

455
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 (laughter)

456
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,000
 No, we had him.

457
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000
 Alright.

458
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000
 I told you, I told you I would come back.

459
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,000
 I told you, I told you I would come back.

460
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 I'm glad you did.

461
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,000
 So, I'll pull the same trick that I just did with sandwich.

462
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 What were some highlights for you of the last six weeks?

463
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 Both in terms of projects, just and in terms of like general things that happened.

464
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,000
 And you're not allowed to mention that let's or tow them.

465
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 Ok. Easy. Easy.

466
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 I'll tell you one area where a vast horizon opened to me.

467
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 And I'm still...

468
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,000
 The implications are yet to play out in my head.

469
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,000
 But...

470
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000
 And I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about this because I think this is profound.

471
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
 And it's cashew.

472
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000
 And it's thanks to this guy, honestly, Breno.

473
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,000
 Because he...

474
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,000
 I have teeth.

475
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
 (laughter)

476
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,000
 Not NFTs, but specifically.

477
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:43,000
 But the fact that what he demonstrated through several projects over several weeks is the extent to which the primitive is flexible.

478
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,000
 You know, the proofs that you're working with.

479
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
 And the kind of things that you can build with it.

480
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,000
 So it's just...

481
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,000
 Yeah, so I will be spending more time just going deep on cashew, for sure.

482
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,000
 Nice.

483
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,000
 So this is 100%.

484
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,000
 I have like a program of work mapped out for myself, including my travel schedule.

485
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:11,000
 So there's like things that are connecting in my head.

486
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,000
 And...

487
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,000
 Lost my train of thoughts.

488
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,000
 So that was number one.

489
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,000
 Give me number two and number three if you had it.

490
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,000
 So obviously...

491
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,000
 I went pretty deep on my thing.

492
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,000
 Because like I said, nostalgia, right?

493
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
 And not to...

494
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,000
 Not to...

495
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,000
 Surely too much.

496
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,000
 But...

497
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000
 It was new.

498
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,000
 You know, like I stood the whole thing up two weeks before the cohort.

499
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000
 Yeah.

500
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,000
 And...

501
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000
 But then it just...

502
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
 It kept snowballing on me, honestly.

503
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,000
 So it was like...

504
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,000
 It was not like I was trying to...

505
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000
 Build this...

506
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,000
 One centralized thing.

507
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,000
 It's because I have...

508
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
 Done the legwork of...

509
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000
 The infrastructure where...

510
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,000
 And then it was just snowballing me.

511
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,000
 Okay, now I can...

512
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000
 I can't...

513
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,000
 I can't...

514
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,000
 I can't add this.

515
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,000
 I can't add this.

516
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000
 And just today, while you were talking, the whiteboard session we had.

517
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,000
 Yeah.

518
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,000
 And then there was like one thing that clicked in my head.

519
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,000
 Yeah.

520
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,000
 That I'm like itching to do now.

521
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,000
 And I don't know...

522
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,000
 I mean, I picture it already.

523
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:27,000
 So it's like, it's one step away or a couple of sessions with clankers away from being materialized.

524
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000
 Awesome.

525
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,000
 I can just picture it.

526
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,000
 But again, it's like, okay, this is gonna be like another thing that...

527
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,000
 It kind of makes sense to surface on astrology.

528
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000
 But then at the same time, I'm thinking...

529
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000
 There are pieces to it that are just like, nastrenated, where you can swap certain things out.

530
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:51,000
 So, like, I'm mindful that it's like, I don't want to create this thing where, oh, just go to dub dub dub,

531
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,000
 mousdrol or whatever, you know.

532
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,000
 Yeah.

533
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,000
 So...

534
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:00,000
 But I think it's deep and I have the pieces that I can add to this.

535
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,000
 Awesome.

536
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,000
 Awesome.

537
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,000
 So that was a...

538
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,000
 Yeah.

539
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
 So, like, a lot of headspace went into this.

540
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
 So, like, I would...

541
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000
 Even though it's mine, I would still put it like, number two.

542
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,000
 And then the third thing that...

543
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
 I wish there was more time...

544
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:23,000
 Is that I would have gone into, is the whole idea of sovereign intelligence is the theme.

545
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
 Okay.

546
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,000
 Yeah.

547
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,000
 So, running models inside TEEs and kind of self-hose things.

548
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000
 Everything.

549
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:37,000
 So, it's starting from being able to take any model from any provider and evaluate it in a testable way

550
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,000
 against a set of evals.

551
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,000
 Yeah.

552
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:51,000
 And then just have a full chain of ITE station as to how it does on specific topics, specific evals, how it performs.

553
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,000
 So, that's like one part of the stack.

554
00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:00,000
 And I think this goes deep all the way to the point where, ideally, I think,

555
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:08,880
 would like us to see open-weight models that are that we we as a community

556
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,400
 yeah like freedom tech people that we have trained and to fucking end yeah I

557
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:20,640
 see yeah starting from this is the core data corpus that went into the pre-training

558
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:26,280
 run these are the evals that we're running on this this is what we did with

559
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:31,080
 the reinforcement learning and this is how we actually did the training run or

560
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,120
 maybe we figure out how to do training runs in a distributed fashion yeah like

561
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,520
 literally you run a little set-at-home little thing on your GPU but there are

562
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,280
 thousands of people like us and this thing you know we don't anyway it gets

563
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:55,560
 into the into the area of maybe like more like slightly academic anyway

564
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,040
 there's like a hard problem it's a very hard problem that's why right now the

565
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,120
 easiest illusion is you raise a couple billion or trillion dollars probably

566
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,480
 part problem but also what gives me confidence is that I come from the you

567
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,120
 know quote-unquote big data background yeah and the big breakthrough was there

568
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:17,320
 is that was that yeah there's more data that you can fit on one box to do

569
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,840
 whatever with the data so the big breakthrough was kind of divide and

570
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:27,120
 conquer you partition the problem yeah and then you run calculations in a

571
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:33,600
 vastly distributed fashion and then you combine and you iterate so that that has

572
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:41,080
 been proven time and again so I think this this general approach applies in

573
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,400
 this area yeah yeah of course I mean like you already mentioned sati at home

574
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,000
 yeah it's also you know protein folding at home like all those kind of things and

575
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,560
 so that's that that would be one direction so I think I think this may be

576
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:57,600
 a one of the more profound things that I'm taking with me and I need to I still

577
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,080
 need to sit down and think this through yeah I mean it's fucking crazy no no

578
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,640
 that's it but that's like the way I like to describe is like you have the six

579
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,240
 weeks of like fire hose and then you just need to calm down and the like

580
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:13,320
 everything needs to compost you know and then you'll see what comes out of the

581
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,160
 compost that's like of your brain after the dust has settled but yeah I love

582
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,040
 those answers so that was great your job is now to pick the next person that I

583
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,560
 didn't talk to yet and I'm already forgetting who I talked to so it's gonna

584
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,520
 be a hard challenge team say again muck team all right he's a where is he he's

585
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:37,520
 right there we go we already talked next one 600 billion we already talked

586
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:46,920
 Brenda you talked still still left yeah okay balloon guy yeah okay balloon boy

587
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:56,720
 you were chosen balloon boy you're the chosen one now so last six weeks you have

588
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:01,920
 to speak into the microphone there is no there is no opting out

589
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:11,040
 no you decline all right that you have to point to the next person all right he

590
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:18,440
 just walked away I'll catch him no he's walking he's running away he's running

591
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:26,720
 away you're not getting away from me you're next hiding hiding hiding in the

592
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:35,600
 dark hiding in the dark I'll be gentle two minutes yeah just no weeks

593
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,320
 six you came in at half point right you've been leading one of the weeks yeah I

594
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,640
 did read so how how was it for you give me some of your highlights personal

595
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:51,000
 highlights of this court well this is my second time so this was an opportunity

596
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:57,000
 to see a lot of faces that came back met some new people I continue to believe

597
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:06,920
 that the kids are all right we'll have to wait yeah for the Portuguese speakers

598
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,760
 this will be a treat for everyone else not so much

599
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,760
 thank you for coming with us we hope to see you again have a great day all right

600
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,520
 or bring out a fantastic continue so I mean so it's clear you know that you

601
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,740
 know this this cohort is a little different because people you know it was

602
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,000
 a little more freeform a little bit less focused on a particular area we know

603
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,600
 yeah so seven it was all network focused yes this one's a little bit more kind

604
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:48,720
 of roll your own sort of thing but it was good to see people come together in

605
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,480
 week five you know the focus I kind of wanted to introduce to people was a

606
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,440
 little more on the collaborative side yeah and people really stepped up to it

607
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,960
 you really liked it like I heard it's all nice

608
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:06,160
 everybody put in the effort to go with the flow and do this pairing off, especially

609
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,740
 announcing ahead of time what their demos are going to be three days in

610
00:40:09,740 --> 00:40:13,400
 advance. Everybody rolled with it and did a great job. I was very happy to see that.

611
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,680
 It sort of leads me, I mean I'm still starting coming back into this community

612
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:26,020
 after quite a long time away, and I'm very happy to see that the future of

613
00:40:26,020 --> 00:40:30,280
 freedom checkers in good minutes. Awesome, awesome, awesome. I think that's a very

614
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,660
 worthy sentence to end on and we're running it to harbor. So I'll just hug

615
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:40,300
 you, I won't hug everyone. Thanks for being back, thanks for indulging me.

616
00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:47,740
 Any last words, you know? We have reached a point where we have enough

617
00:40:47,740 --> 00:40:53,140
 primitives and tools and collaboration possibilities that we can actually build

618
00:40:53,140 --> 00:40:58,340
 something that is usable and infrastructure-level stuff and we need to

619
00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:03,420
 get together and focus and build it, pipe things together because we have

620
00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:09,140
 everything that we wanted a year back, two years back, but now we actually do have it.

621
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:18,300
 If all that's music to your ears, send a DM to your, not to me, to your, or to

622
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:23,340
 the sovereign engineering, reach out. No, but like I mentioned it once or twice, we

623
00:41:23,340 --> 00:41:28,220
 want to do more stuff, we want to do different kinds of formats, we want to

624
00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:32,820
 involve more gray beards, we want to involve some of more young people and

625
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:37,660
 like sovereign engineering is gonna evolve and we'll run some different

626
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:41,100
 experiments and see what works and what doesn't. We'll continue to do this for

627
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:45,500
 sure and yeah, we'll hope to branch out a little bit and reach out to some of the

628
00:41:45,500 --> 00:41:49,420
 you know existing communities like local first, mesh network people, just

629
00:41:49,420 --> 00:41:53,660
 general hacker people, like people that were rock-pulled a lot, that's

630
00:41:53,660 --> 00:41:57,620
 that's our people. Yeah, if you wear a D-bank five times in your own, like come

631
00:41:57,620 --> 00:42:05,340
 talk to us. Yeah, any ideas? Send a DM. All right, fantastic. One more hug and then

632
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:09,940
 I'll have to find my phone again to actually press stop but it's somewhere

633
00:42:09,940 --> 00:42:16,940
 it's somewhere on the boat. It's somewhere on the boat.

634
00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:29,300
 We'll talk yes tomorrow or something. Oh, sure. Yeah, okay. We'll talk because oh no.

635
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:34,620
 I'm actually I'm actually gonna do this. So first time for you as well, same

636
00:42:34,620 --> 00:42:39,340
 question as everyone else. Looking back at the last six weeks, how was it for you

637
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:43,820
 and you didn't you didn't do the full thing? So how was it for you? How was

638
00:42:43,820 --> 00:42:48,660
 the experience for you and what were like your top three highlights? So I was

639
00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:55,700
 just here the second half of the cohort invited by you. So nice. Quite cool to

640
00:42:55,700 --> 00:43:02,020
 just get the opportunity to meet all of the people who are building all of the

641
00:43:02,020 --> 00:43:08,540
 technology that I then use just in my applications and actually try to apply

642
00:43:08,540 --> 00:43:13,460
 them. What were some of the things that impressed you? Like what was something

643
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:21,860
 that was new for you or that kind of sticks in your mind? I think so I think

644
00:43:21,860 --> 00:43:29,140
 tips for just how groundbreaking and just a new paradigm tips might be

645
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:33,340
 into how much it could change in the future but in general the whole

646
00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:40,020
 not the ecosystem. I mean of course I knew before that it's more than just a

647
00:43:40,020 --> 00:43:46,140
 new or decentralized social media but how much actually or how disrupting this

648
00:43:46,140 --> 00:43:51,500
 technology can be in different areas is just quite my blowing. Okay so that was

649
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:55,020
 that was a surprise. What's what's what's next for you? What are you gonna work on

650
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:59,500
 the next couple weeks? Anything that pops up when I ask this question? Yeah I

651
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:05,860
 mean just improving my climbing updates that I work on and maybe using also so

652
00:44:05,860 --> 00:44:11,840
 I had a POC working last week with Julian to actually have a local

653
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,700
 FIPS mesh for climbing on a board so climbers on a board are just connected

654
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:23,940
 and I want to make this stable and useful. All right. All right awesome

655
00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:30,780
 and I'll do well as well. Two minutes while we're docking. Yes so what were the

656
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:37,180
 highlights from your perspective? You're here for the third? Yes. That's right

657
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:43,620
 the first time. So what were some highlights for you for this goal?

658
00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:52,980
 I think Nablitz. Just continue. Nablitz was actually like the biggest

659
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:59,540
 highlights like I think it is groundbreaking like FIPS was last cohort.

660
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200
 I see it. It's very interesting.

661
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,840
 Also, I think a lot of the co-host, a lot of the demos that I saw,

662
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,520
 like the Rage of Empires by G.

663
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,080
 I actually didn't get it at first.

664
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,080
 You decompile a binary and just rebuild it from scratch.

665
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:21,000
 It's reverse engineer binary.

666
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,000
 I didn't get it at first. I thought it was dumb.

667
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,720
 But after a few days, I got it.

668
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,320
 It is actually...

669
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,160
 He's not as dumb as he comes across.

670
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,320
 No.

671
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,080
 Yeah, it's actually mind-blowing.

672
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:37,200
 I think we can reverse engineer so many of the applications from the last generation.

673
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,120
 Awesome.

674
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:43,240
 I have your brain to pick on some of the things,

675
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,960
 but it will take more than two minutes.

676
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,120
 I'll just ask, what's next for you?

677
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
 What are some things you want to work on or something that intrigues you

678
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,960
 that's related to this core?

679
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,120
 Oh, maplets. So I built maplets with the maplets

680
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,320
 where maps are blossom, everything is blossom, everything is on noster.

681
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,480
 I want to build this.

682
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,000
 We want to go to a different place in the world, like Vietnam, Thailand,

683
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,320
 and we map the world on noster.

684
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,080
 Awesome. Awesome.

685
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:14,320
 Awesome. Let's end on this while we're docking.

686
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,160
 Yes. Thank you.

687
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,400
 I'm glad you made it here for the first time.

688
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,120
 Hope to see you again one day.

689
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,120
 (people chattering)