1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 Alright, take two. 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Alright. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I told you this was going to be very imperfect. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 So we already fucked up the first time. 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,000 It was phenomenal. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Yeah. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,000 The discussion? 8 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Yeah. 9 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:15,000 The three minutes. 10 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Absolutely amazing. 11 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Sitting on via Jeff was excellent. 12 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 So we can always go longer. 13 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,000 Yeah. 14 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 A weird Brazilian guy is to blame for all of this. 15 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,000 So what is this going to be? 16 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,000 This is officially the second test recording slash teaser. 17 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,000 So tell me about it Pablo. 18 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:33,000 What is this going to be? 19 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Well, it's a bit of an experiment where we're going to try to distill what we've learned, where we are. 20 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:56,000 And yeah, I think we, because mostly because of what we did with sovereign engineering so far, we now know a lot more than we did a year ago about where people get hung up. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:06,000 And it's just the mistakes that keep coming up constantly or repeatedly. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:11,000 So I think we're just going to walk and try to explore. 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Yeah, it's a nice excuse to have a nice walk in the sun. 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 That's going to be my thing. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:26,000 The reason why I'm doing this is I just want to have an excuse to see you once a week for an hour. 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,000 Because even though we are more or less at the same place, we basically never see each other. 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:32,000 So that's terrible. 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,000 And yeah, I just want to pick your brain. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 I just want to see where things are at. 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,000 And I think you've been very close to Noster for a long time. 31 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Probably closer than most. 32 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,000 And I just, yeah, probably too close. 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 Yeah, careful. 34 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Don't fly too close to the sun. 35 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:56,000 No, but I, I, I, I mean, we talked about some of those things already. 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:07,000 And the last time we talked about it was like, we should actually record all this and just get other people involved and just see kind of how the conversation involves and open it up and so on. 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:16,000 And so we got because many in many of those conversations, we go in knowing less than we that we end up with. 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,000 We find out things while we are having a conversation as an exploration that we're having. 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:29,000 And I think we've arrived to many interesting thought provoking ideas, having those conversations. 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Yeah. 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,000 And so we're going to continue and we're going to press record and we're going to just send it. 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,000 That's going to be the idea. 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Yeah, exactly. 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,000 Yeah, exactly. 45 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,000 That's how that's how the internet evolves. 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 It used to be sent tweet, the secret to life and absolutely everything. 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Now I guess it's like send note. 48 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:47,000 I still hate it. 49 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 I mean, I should, I think we should reclaim. 50 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Yeah, fuck it. 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 But now it's going to be sent podcast. 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Tolster. 53 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Yeah, exactly. 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 And so that's what it's going to be. 55 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:04,000 And yeah, I'm a big believer in kind of, you know, that's why we, we also in the, in the cohorts, we force everyone to walk and talk and think out loud. 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 And so on. 57 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:11,000 And so that's, that's going to be an experiment in kind of, you know, I don't know. 58 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Noster, development, dialogue, I think. 59 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Something like that. 60 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,000 Yeah. 61 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Well, let's see how it goes. 62 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Let's see if that one worked. 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Maybe we have to take a, do it take three. 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 We'll be loving something. 65 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 But yeah, no. 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,000 I hope, I hope we'll get something out of it. 67 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,000 I'm probably, we're probably going to do it mostly for ourselves. 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 I guess if someone listens via Jeff is going to listen. 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:31,000 Come on. 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,000 We're going to, we just have to do, like, hashtag starcraft or something. 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 It's going to be, it's going to be amazing. 72 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 It's going to be a Noster and Starcraft, but exactly. 73 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 There, we'll see, we'll see how it goes. 74 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,000 And yeah, we'll, we'll see where our feet and our conversations lead us. 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 So that's the plan. 76 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,000 That's the plan. 77 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Awesome.